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supervisor campos: aye >> supervisor chiu: aye >> president: aye >> supervisor cohen: aye >> supervisor farrell: aye >> supervisor kim: aye >> supervisor mar: aye >> supervisor wiener: aye >> supervisor yee: aye >> supervisor avalos: aye. >> there are 11 ayes. >> motions approved. let's take up supervisor mar's resolution first. made a motion to adopt the resolution. could have a second? is there any public comment to declare january 27 as patricia thompson day in san francisco. without objection this resolution adopted. on the second resolution, supervisor cohen, commemorating the 150th anniversary of emancipation proclamation. this resolution has the requisite -- finding. any additional public comment? public comment is closed. and we take this item same house same call. commemorating the 150th anniversary of the emancipation profanation is adopted >> >> in memoriam. the late robert morgan. on behalf of supervisor avalos for the lake mark anthony burrell. >> more business in front of his body? >> that concludes all items. >> this meeting is adjourned. go niners. director rubke? >> present. >>
supervisor campos: aye >> supervisor chiu: aye >> president: aye >> supervisor cohen: aye >> supervisor farrell: aye >> supervisor kim: aye >> supervisor mar: aye >> supervisor wiener: aye >> supervisor yee: aye >> supervisor avalos: aye. >> there are 11 ayes. >> motions approved. let's take up supervisor mar's resolution first. made a motion to adopt the resolution. could have a second? is there any public comment to declare...
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>> thanks, chair farrell. thank you, ms. cavillo and ms. landis. i just wanted to say i'm very impressed how lean the office is, but how much we do with so little funds. i appreciate the cost savings that were made with different salary steps and other efforts to reduce the cost. and i'm also supportive of fully staffing the youth commission given their 17 members. the important increases to outreach to youth organizations, better development and capacity building for them. and also making sure that the commission lives up to its role advising the board. so, i'm really pleased for the changes and i'm supportive of the budget. >> thank you, supervisor mar. mr. chair, we're happy to return february 13th chance to talk to the other supervisors, not on the budget committee, about the budget so far? i want to make sure everyone has a chance to vet it before we send it forward. >> chair farrell, i have had an opportunity to speak with every supervisor on the department's budget. but again, more than happy to come back in february in the event there are n
>> thanks, chair farrell. thank you, ms. cavillo and ms. landis. i just wanted to say i'm very impressed how lean the office is, but how much we do with so little funds. i appreciate the cost savings that were made with different salary steps and other efforts to reduce the cost. and i'm also supportive of fully staffing the youth commission given their 17 members. the important increases to outreach to youth organizations, better development and capacity building for them. and also...
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. >> good morning chair farrell, committee member, supervisor avalos and supervisor mar. on november 20, 2013. the board of supervisors unanimously approved resolution to establish base to be known as moscone expansion district. it was resolution 416-12. in this resolution a public meeting on the proposed establishment of the district and collection of assessment was set for january 23, 2013 at the budget and finance committee. no action will be taken at this meeting on proposed settlement district. testimony can be heard and as members of the public are here to testify. in december a ballot for the special election on the proposed moscone expansion district together with a joint notice of the january 23rd public meeting were mailed to all businesses registered as hotels registered in san francisco. additional testimony on the formation of the moscone expansion district will be taken at the public hearing on february 5th at 3:00 p.m. at a meeting of the full board of supervisors. at the close of the public testimony on february 5th or at a future board meeting if the hear
. >> good morning chair farrell, committee member, supervisor avalos and supervisor mar. on november 20, 2013. the board of supervisors unanimously approved resolution to establish base to be known as moscone expansion district. it was resolution 416-12. in this resolution a public meeting on the proposed establishment of the district and collection of assessment was set for january 23, 2013 at the budget and finance committee. no action will be taken at this meeting on proposed...
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>> supervisor farrell: thank you. i also would like to thank my colleagues sitting through this item for your endurance and patience as well as people who have come out to speak on both sides of this issue. i realize it has received a significant amount of attention and look forward to moving this dialogue forward. before laying out the specifics of the legislation today, i wanted to take a moment to talk about the goals here. this has been something i've worked on since coming into office two years ago, and something that i am proud to see going forward. first, the goal is to help tiv owners who are at significant risk of foreclosure given the interest rates in san francisco. i want to talk about who tic owners are. contrary to the number of -- they are not wealthy individuals or speculators, but middle class working families in our city. we will hear from teachers, police officers, public defenders, nurses, single moms, many who are trying to stay in san francisco. two came into my office this morning talking about
>> supervisor farrell: thank you. i also would like to thank my colleagues sitting through this item for your endurance and patience as well as people who have come out to speak on both sides of this issue. i realize it has received a significant amount of attention and look forward to moving this dialogue forward. before laying out the specifics of the legislation today, i wanted to take a moment to talk about the goals here. this has been something i've worked on since coming into...
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supervisor farrell owe supervisor wiener. you go first farrell. >> so, this is a hard one i always -- i quickly learned after coming on to the board that i was going to dread the day that sean elsburnd was no longer a colleague and you thought i was going to start with something isn't that correcty. i'm starting with something nice. and this is a very you know a very saturday i know for me and a lot of people and i think we all know being in a position and particularly when you are running from scratch, when you start trying to generate support and something that is hard at the beginning and people are not sure what is going on and it's hard for them to get people to say yes and i still -- sean was the very first person who endorsed me when i ran for a full two years before the election i still remember sitting down and ordering coughity and he said absolutely of course, and sean you have stuck with me through a very hard campaign and coming on the board even though you are younger than i am you have you have been a mentor to
supervisor farrell owe supervisor wiener. you go first farrell. >> so, this is a hard one i always -- i quickly learned after coming on to the board that i was going to dread the day that sean elsburnd was no longer a colleague and you thought i was going to start with something isn't that correcty. i'm starting with something nice. and this is a very you know a very saturday i know for me and a lot of people and i think we all know being in a position and particularly when you are...
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. >> thank you, chair farrell. we had the fast pass agreement before us, before budget and finance earlier. i'm not sure exactly when it was, last year -- >> 2011, yeah. >> 2011. and at that point there was a proposal for passenger rate. what was the actual rate? $1.02 before. what was being proposed back in 2011? i'm trying to figure out if there -- since that time, i don't think we're quite satisfied with what the rate was and it changed during the ensuing negotiations that happened. >> okay. so, thank you for that question. so, there are some changes between -- in terms of the term of the previous agreement that you considered and today. in terms of the actual rate there was no change in the rate. so, at that point it was also proposed to go from $1.02 to $1.19. there were some changes in terms of the length of the agreement as well as the cap issue. i can go through those if you like as well. >> if you could briefly, i would appreciate that. >> sure. so, before the fast pass agreement was going to go from -- re
. >> thank you, chair farrell. we had the fast pass agreement before us, before budget and finance earlier. i'm not sure exactly when it was, last year -- >> 2011, yeah. >> 2011. and at that point there was a proposal for passenger rate. what was the actual rate? $1.02 before. what was being proposed back in 2011? i'm trying to figure out if there -- since that time, i don't think we're quite satisfied with what the rate was and it changed during the ensuing negotiations that...
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supervisor farrell. >> supervisor farrell: thank you, chair wiener. thank you to my colleagues. you know, again, i think to echo what a number of us have said, i do respect the the dialogue that happened today. and i do concur with chair wiener that the comments that both people on both sides of the debate acknowledge the other side's merits and a desire to work together so it is appropriate that we decide to do that. and i look forward to the next few weeks. this is something that is -- as i mentioned before is not going away. it's affecting families on a monthly basis here and it's something that i very much want to see tackled and handled as soon as we can and i commit full time and resources to make that happen and look forward to that debate 12k3w4r-78 thank you. so -- >> chair wiener: thank you. we have amendments that have been proposed by supervisor farrell, and can we take those amendments without objection? that will be the order. and now we have a motion to continue on the table, and it's been seconded, this is a motion to continue the item until february 25 can we ta
supervisor farrell. >> supervisor farrell: thank you, chair wiener. thank you to my colleagues. you know, again, i think to echo what a number of us have said, i do respect the the dialogue that happened today. and i do concur with chair wiener that the comments that both people on both sides of the debate acknowledge the other side's merits and a desire to work together so it is appropriate that we decide to do that. and i look forward to the next few weeks. this is something that is --...
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supervisor farrell. >> supervisor farrell: thank you, chair, and to my colleagues and to the people who spoke today on both sides of the issue. i think as we knew going in this, there is passion on both sides here. and i very much respect that as the author of this legislation. and what i neglected to do earlier, was fail to thank my cosponsor, supervisor wiener, and thank you for your leadership on this issue as well. as i spoke before and mentioned this legislation was designed to benefit everyone. this wasn't a one-sided piece of legislation. it isn't designed to pit homeowners against renters and the rhetoric that has come out in talking about this legislation has done that and that is extremely unfortunate. what we did was to, in this legislation, is to support both homeowners and t.i.c. owners but also renters as well as affordable housing community. i think today, what struck me the most, to be honest with you, were the personal stories that came out. the last speaker being a teacher that has to work a second job, families coming out, young parents, nurses, and so forth. and to m
supervisor farrell. >> supervisor farrell: thank you, chair, and to my colleagues and to the people who spoke today on both sides of the issue. i think as we knew going in this, there is passion on both sides here. and i very much respect that as the author of this legislation. and what i neglected to do earlier, was fail to thank my cosponsor, supervisor wiener, and thank you for your leadership on this issue as well. as i spoke before and mentioned this legislation was designed to...
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. >> supervisor farrell. >> supervisor farrell: i will hold my vote from the last time around, support the 1.4 million dollars. this is a debate we have been having. we will lose about 30-40 million from the state. mayor lee already last week appropriated 7.2 million dollars out of the reserve for our own safety net so we are drawing that. i don't see the nexis from the state reserve. i have no problem spending in our kids education, to draw from our state reserve to put us further in the hole to me is the wrong approach. >> supervisor campos. >> supervisor campos i would like to begin by welcoming once again our newly elected colleagues, supervisors yee and breed. it is exciting when we take our own new board of supervisors, and i look forward to working with you. there are many votes that we cast in this chamber and in some respects it is only fitting that one of the first votes that this new board starting its new term takes is his vote. this is one of the most important issues that we will be dealing with in one of the most important vote that we will be taking as his term proceeds
. >> supervisor farrell. >> supervisor farrell: i will hold my vote from the last time around, support the 1.4 million dollars. this is a debate we have been having. we will lose about 30-40 million from the state. mayor lee already last week appropriated 7.2 million dollars out of the reserve for our own safety net so we are drawing that. i don't see the nexis from the state reserve. i have no problem spending in our kids education, to draw from our state reserve to put us further...
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seconded by supervisor farrell. without objection the amendment will be added. >> supervisor kim: i appreciate the legislation coming before us. i have a quick question for the author. the number of announcements to be made at the festival. is that enforceable? do we need to prescribed to that extent? i believe the members attending should know. but if we have to do it to that level of detail. >> the vice president of breathe california has said this is largely public education effort does not have any additional enforcement attached to it. the more public awareness, announcements from stage, people will get more familiar and self-patrol. we are working with event producers, and others, super they will be fully aware of the requirements but it is important to have regular and periodic announcements. >> president: can we take this ordinance and to same house same call? this ordinance is passed in the first reading as amendment. colleagues we have with us the changing change of rules, shifted our special accommodation
seconded by supervisor farrell. without objection the amendment will be added. >> supervisor kim: i appreciate the legislation coming before us. i have a quick question for the author. the number of announcements to be made at the festival. is that enforceable? do we need to prescribed to that extent? i believe the members attending should know. but if we have to do it to that level of detail. >> the vice president of breathe california has said this is largely public education...
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i wanted to thank supervisors farrell and wiener. i'm in supervisor farrell's district. i've lived in a number of different neighborhoods. i've lived in the tender knob, north beach and cow hollow. i wanted to register my support and also register the support of my fellow owners. thank you. >> chair wiener: thank you. next speaker. >> my name is josephine, my family of seven lives in district five. i speak for joe-joe, still in the audience, mr. jow-jow, and ruby lee still in the audience and other monolingual chinese speaker who will have to leave by now or too shy to speak. we also speak for 152 families from asian-american voters.org. we support rent control law. many of us are or having renters. many of us are still renters some years, some years to go into home ordinancesship. by -- home ownership, in order to buy a home. we speak for cindy, her family has been on the waiting list for eight years and she's on the verge of foreclosure and be homeless. we speak for joe-jow who sits in the audience because he's disabled. he has to pay two-thirds of his disability into
i wanted to thank supervisors farrell and wiener. i'm in supervisor farrell's district. i've lived in a number of different neighborhoods. i've lived in the tender knob, north beach and cow hollow. i wanted to register my support and also register the support of my fellow owners. thank you. >> chair wiener: thank you. next speaker. >> my name is josephine, my family of seven lives in district five. i speak for joe-joe, still in the audience, mr. jow-jow, and ruby lee still in the...
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. >> good afternoon, chair farrell, members of the budget and finance committee. angela [speaker not understood] clerk of the board. i'm here today with deborah [speaker not understood] to present the department's fiscal year 13-14 proposed budget based upon budget instructions the committee provided at the december guideline hearing. as you know, we are on a rolling two-year budget cycle. the committee's general direction was to prepare a budget, a draft that was similar to the budget that was adopted last year with slight changes. today i'll take you through the current year's budget and the department's administrative and finance deputy deborah land iswill review 13-14 and 14-15. and finally since the goal today is to obtain your feedback * should you make significant changes or would like an additional presentation, we can return to the committee on february 13th if the committee desires. if the committee would indulge me just for a moment, specific to the new members on the board and interested members of the public, for background information we are a small
. >> good afternoon, chair farrell, members of the budget and finance committee. angela [speaker not understood] clerk of the board. i'm here today with deborah [speaker not understood] to present the department's fiscal year 13-14 proposed budget based upon budget instructions the committee provided at the december guideline hearing. as you know, we are on a rolling two-year budget cycle. the committee's general direction was to prepare a budget, a draft that was similar to the budget...
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supervisor farrell. >> supervisor farrell: a number of items. first of all regarding the shooting at sandy hook elementary in connecticut. this was an unfathomable event. as a parent it hit so close to home that i am amazed i never imagined it and i have had a pit in my stomach ever since. 20 students, four for teachers and two administrators. i have a first grader. every day 34 americans are murdered with guns during president obama's final four years in office it is estimated that 40,000 americans will be killed with guns, the same amount of people killed in vietnam. says the shooting in arizona which killed six people including a nine-year-old and seriously injured than congresswoman-- as the city we should continue to lead the way to advocate for and pass policies that protect the general well-being of the society. today i am introducing two resolutions, supporting senator dianne feinstein's assault weapon legislation; and a resolution supporting the sandy hook promise, born out of the event that killed those 20 children, four teachers and t
supervisor farrell. >> supervisor farrell: a number of items. first of all regarding the shooting at sandy hook elementary in connecticut. this was an unfathomable event. as a parent it hit so close to home that i am amazed i never imagined it and i have had a pit in my stomach ever since. 20 students, four for teachers and two administrators. i have a first grader. every day 34 americans are murdered with guns during president obama's final four years in office it is estimated that...
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supervisor farrell. farrell present. kim present. supervisor mar, mar present. supervisor wiener, wiener present. and supervisor yee.y present. mr. president all members are present. >> thank you could you please join us in the problem of allegiance. [pledge of allegiance] i pledge allegiance to the flag, of the united states of america, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. madame clerk are there any communications. >>> there are no communications mr. president. >> and could you read read our consent genta. items one-18 are considered routine and if a member objects a an item may be ri moved and considered separately. >> colleagues would anyone like to sever any of these items, camp poes aye. supervisor chu, sprfer cohen, aye? a. supervisor farrell, aye, supervisor kim? , kim aye, supervisor mar, mar aye, supervisor wiener aye. supervisor ayey. there are answer aye's. those ordinances are finally passed thosances are adoptedded and approved. madame clerk please read items 19-21. item 19 is
supervisor farrell. farrell present. kim present. supervisor mar, mar present. supervisor wiener, wiener present. and supervisor yee.y present. mr. president all members are present. >> thank you could you please join us in the problem of allegiance. [pledge of allegiance] i pledge allegiance to the flag, of the united states of america, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. madame clerk are there any communications....
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>> supervisor farrell. we can take them without objection roll call. >> supervisor chiu: aye >> supervisor cohen: aye mke aye >> supervisor kim: aye >> supervisor mar: aye >> supervisor wiener: aye >> supervisor yee: aye >> supervisor avalos: aye >> president: the resolutions adopted as amended and if we could go back to the balance of the consent agenda, items 2-11. same house, same call. resolutions are adopted, ordinances passed. can you call item 12. >> (from agenda) >> president: supervisor kim? >> supervisor kim: we are coming to near and on discussion around the supplemental appropriation and i wanted to take a moment to fact my cosponsors, supervisors campos, mar and avalos, and also supervisors cohen and chiu for your support. this is a long-standing conversation that i've engaged with -- since july of last year. large cuts that have happened to the school district. since 2007-08 school year the school district has lost 146 million. last year alone cost from the state were 77 million. despite incre
>> supervisor farrell. we can take them without objection roll call. >> supervisor chiu: aye >> supervisor cohen: aye mke aye >> supervisor kim: aye >> supervisor mar: aye >> supervisor wiener: aye >> supervisor yee: aye >> supervisor avalos: aye >> president: the resolutions adopted as amended and if we could go back to the balance of the consent agenda, items 2-11. same house, same call. resolutions are adopted, ordinances passed. can you...
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my name is supervisor mark farrell and i'm joined by john avalos and eric mar. mr.clerk any announcements? >> please turn off electronic devices. copies of any documents to be included must be submitted to the clerk. >> thanks mr. clerk. call item number one. >> resolution authorizing emergency of management performance fiscal year 2012 in the amount of $289,613 from the united states department of homeland security through the california emergency management agency for the building and sustaining capabilities. >> now we have amy to come and speak about it. >> good morning chairman farrell members of the committee. the item before you is expense approximately $290,000. it's a general grant for disaster preparation, mitigation, response and recovery here in san francisco. this grant requires $290,000 match. it's equal amount and it's an amount we already budgeted in the current fiscal year through emergency management include inclined services. most of the match comes from our department and part of the match also comes from meals on wheels the local nonprofit he
my name is supervisor mark farrell and i'm joined by john avalos and eric mar. mr.clerk any announcements? >> please turn off electronic devices. copies of any documents to be included must be submitted to the clerk. >> thanks mr. clerk. call item number one. >> resolution authorizing emergency of management performance fiscal year 2012 in the amount of $289,613 from the united states department of homeland security through the california emergency management agency for the...
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. >> supervisor kim: i want to thank supervisor farrell for bringing up connecticut. we recessed before the incident happened. we were moved and saddened by what occurred. for the families i cannot imagine what they are still processing through. today we sent our support. i agree with supervisor farrell that has to be movement made on gun control, even here in the city of san francisco gun violence continues to pervade our communities as many of our colleagues have mentioned. we lose the lives of young people. we can benefit from a lot of that legislative change. on a different note, i submitted a request for a hearing regarding the training and skill development job placement of san francisco residents in the city's growing technology sector. supervisor farrell mention the city as a partner in the effort.one of the commitments it was unheard of by many of the tech companies, the same with tax exclusion that we also did on stock compensation was that tech companies were committed on working with the city of san francisco on hiring residents from many neighborhoods tha
. >> supervisor kim: i want to thank supervisor farrell for bringing up connecticut. we recessed before the incident happened. we were moved and saddened by what occurred. for the families i cannot imagine what they are still processing through. today we sent our support. i agree with supervisor farrell that has to be movement made on gun control, even here in the city of san francisco gun violence continues to pervade our communities as many of our colleagues have mentioned. we lose the...
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farrell, this does open the door to speculation. yes, there is speculation but that is why it's called speculation. and i will do everything in my power to defeat, in the next election, supervisors who vote for this law. >> chair wiener: thank you. next speaker. >> i'm here -- my name is david wallace and i'm a t.i.c. owner and i'm here to ask you to support this legislation. this legislation will have a huge impact on my future, and ability to afford my home. originally, my t.i.c. held a group loan to reform -- financial. thorn bird collapsed in 2008 and my loan was sold. it was well known that before thornberg collapsed, they allowed transfer of our group loans in the interest of thornberg and t.i.c.'s qualified buyers. after the collapse my loan was sold and no longer transferable. one of our owners was transferred out of the san francisco to san diego. she tried to sell, and at this point we all realized that we had to refinance, with a great burden to us, caused a lot of stress in our t.i.c. i was looking at coming up with $70,
farrell, this does open the door to speculation. yes, there is speculation but that is why it's called speculation. and i will do everything in my power to defeat, in the next election, supervisors who vote for this law. >> chair wiener: thank you. next speaker. >> i'm here -- my name is david wallace and i'm a t.i.c. owner and i'm here to ask you to support this legislation. this legislation will have a huge impact on my future, and ability to afford my home. originally, my t.i.c....
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supervisors wiener and farrell, i guess supervisor farrell isn't here but you spoke forcefully in support of rent control earlier in the afternoon and yet your actions contradict your words because you're attempting to chip away at rent control right now. our largest source of affordable housing in it san francisco. supervisor kim, you had great questions earlier, questions about the ability of this legislation to withstand palmer lawsuits. regarding parkmerced, if people, who -- if the people who crafted the deal to make the garden apartments rent controlled in perpetuity or at least for the duration of the current tenant had not been so worried about the illegal weaknesses of the parkmerced deal there would have been no need to create the 200 million backup fund to protect tenants in case of court challenges and i imagine that 200 fund itself is probably on legal shaky ground. that could be challenged. so if the parkmerced development is on shaky legal ground i can only imagine this legislation is on equally shaky legal ground. there needs to be affordable -- there certainly is an affor
supervisors wiener and farrell, i guess supervisor farrell isn't here but you spoke forcefully in support of rent control earlier in the afternoon and yet your actions contradict your words because you're attempting to chip away at rent control right now. our largest source of affordable housing in it san francisco. supervisor kim, you had great questions earlier, questions about the ability of this legislation to withstand palmer lawsuits. regarding parkmerced, if people, who -- if the people...
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we will call vote on items two and three, conthe consensus, supervisor farrell. >> farrell aye, supermar. kim aye. >> supervisor a loggy eye. wean easer aye. avalos aye. supervisor camp pose aye. chew eye. supervisor chu? . chu eye. supervisor cohen in. aye supervisor elsburnd -- mr. president there are 11 ayes those resolutions are adoptedded and pass the if you could read item six. >> item four is -- excuse me sir, you are out of order. sir you are out of order. thank you. mr. clerk if you could please read items four through six. >> item four is affirming the -- by the planning commission and long rage development plan and number five is reimbursing the certification and number six is contracting the court to prepare findings. >> colleagues you are aware that there have been ongoing discussions about the future of this probability and those discussions have not yet concluded and so i would like to ask at this time to have a motion to continue these items to the second item of the new year this is january 29th motion by supervisor phil seconded by supervisor campos and with that motion
we will call vote on items two and three, conthe consensus, supervisor farrell. >> farrell aye, supermar. kim aye. >> supervisor a loggy eye. wean easer aye. avalos aye. supervisor camp pose aye. chew eye. supervisor chu? . chu eye. supervisor cohen in. aye supervisor elsburnd -- mr. president there are 11 ayes those resolutions are adoptedded and pass the if you could read item six. >> item four is -- excuse me sir, you are out of order. sir you are out of order. thank you....
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. >> supervisor farrell: to supervisor kim's question, when you go through the lottery, let's say you win the lottery or convert otherwise, there is a fee to start the process going forward. that fee will not be waived. that will continue in time. this is a new and separate fee. the dollar amount out of that nee came from the nexus study conducted, studying the effects of a condo converse study two years ago. happy to provide you with that. but that's where that fee emanated from. >> co-chair kim: in terms of depending on the number of years obviously that fee reduces down to $4,000. i know there's concern about whether $4,000 per unit can mitigate the loss of rent control units. beyond the normal existing procedure that we have currently for -- to ensure that there's sort of a metered rate at which we lose -- basically lose rent controlled units. >> supervisor farrell: i challenge probably the premise of that comment but i will say that the amount of fee reduction was a balancing act -- and to the city attorney can speak to further detail about that. we have to match that with the ne
. >> supervisor farrell: to supervisor kim's question, when you go through the lottery, let's say you win the lottery or convert otherwise, there is a fee to start the process going forward. that fee will not be waived. that will continue in time. this is a new and separate fee. the dollar amount out of that nee came from the nexus study conducted, studying the effects of a condo converse study two years ago. happy to provide you with that. but that's where that fee emanated from....
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scott wiener, mark farrell don't belong in city hall but in jail. there is nothing obscene about the human body. political prosecution is obscene. long live -- life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. >> chair wiener: everyone come to order please. thank you. next speaker. >> hi, supervisors. my name is karen babette and i'm here today on behalf of the san francisco group of the sierra club and we sent awe letter on this subject back in september which i believe is in your packets but i have copies if you want more. i will read from it because otherwise there's no way you'll understand what i'm saying. the sierra club opposes the proposed condo ordinance and urgency rejection by the board of supervisors and this is for three main reasons. number one, just very practical, converting a t.i.c. to a condo doesn't create new housing. it just changes it from one type of ownership to another. the proposed fees that were discussedalty length earlier don't even come close to providing the needed funds to build replacement rental units. i understands the n
scott wiener, mark farrell don't belong in city hall but in jail. there is nothing obscene about the human body. political prosecution is obscene. long live -- life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. >> chair wiener: everyone come to order please. thank you. next speaker. >> hi, supervisors. my name is karen babette and i'm here today on behalf of the san francisco group of the sierra club and we sent awe letter on this subject back in september which i believe is in your...